Muddymoles mountain biking in the Surrey Hills and Mole Valley

2011 Orange Five upgrades? Possibly

Posted by Matt | March 12, 2010 | 5 comments so far

Tapered headtube on Orange Five
Do you notice anything different about this Orange Five head tube? Yes, that’s right, it’s tapered to accommodate the increasing number of forks with tapered steerers. But that’s not the only thing that makes this Orange Five just a little… strange.

Dave from Cycleworks is someone who is always looking for the next best thing. Having years of bike industry experience behind him, including racing, retailing and mechanics means he’s got a good idea of what he’d like to see on a bike. Or at least, stuff he’d like to try out on a bike.

With some key trends coming through for the kind of market that Fives have traditionally been aimed at — All Mountain, for want of a better phrase — he decided to pick up the phone to Orange and see if he could persuade them to consider some of his ideas. It helps that Cycleworks sell a goodly number of Fives I guess, but luckily for him Orange were quite open to some Five experimentation.

So what’s different then? Well, according to Cycleworks’ own Strange Five blog entry the bike Dave’s currently running has a tapered headtube, a longer top tube to allow a shorter stem to be used and ISCG mounts so you can run a chain device or more enticingly, a Hammerschmidt crank. There’s also a 30.9mm seat tube to let him run any of the current crop of seat dropper posts and cable guides to keep things tidy.

All in all some quite worthwhile changes if you’re someone who likes to push the burlier end of the Five’s performance envelope. Obviously this is nothing more than a prototype but it certainly is food for thought and it’s reasonable to assume that some of these mods may show up in next years Orange line-up.

MBR magazine and a few other people have been trying out similarly equipped frames with some excellent feedback so far, so watch this space.

Filed under Mutterings, Trends in March 2010


About the author

Matt is one of the founding Molefathers of the Muddymoles, and is the designer and main administrator of the website.

Having ridden a 2007 Orange Five for many years then a 2016 YT Industries Jeffsy 29er, he now rocks a Bird Aether 9 and a Pace RC-627.

An early On-One Inbred still lurks in the back of the stable as a reminder of how things have moved on. You can even find him on road bikes - currently a 2019 Cannondale Topstone 105 SE, a much-used 2011 Specialized Secteur and very niche belt drive Trek District 1.

If you've ever wondered how we got into mountain biking and how the MuddyMoles started, well wonder no more.

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  1. tony says:

    It looks rubbish!

    ….oh just a minute…..wrong part of the picture.

    Great product development story. I particularly like the OS headtube – I’ve had one on my carbon road bike since 2006. Much better front end stiffness.

  2. Muddymoles says:

    Orange multilink 140mm travel bike

    A new Orange platform with 140mm travel and multilink suspension hints at a replacement (or at least an alternative) to the Five

  3. Muddymoles says:

    Orange Five for 2011 – the Surrey Hills influence

    The suggestions that Dave from Cycleworks made to Orange have made it into production on the 2011 Orange Five!

  4. Related: Orange multilink 140mm travel bike | Mutterings, Trends | Muddymoles: Mountain biking (MTB) in the Surrey Hills and Mole Valley

  5. Related: Orange Five for 2011 - the Surrey Hills influence | News, 2010 | Muddymoles: Mountain biking (MTB) in the Surrey Hills and Mole Valley

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